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A message from opposite-of-batman
Hi! I have a question, it's something I've been mulling over but haven't found much about it online -- when people talk about privilege, they mainly talk a bout gender, race, disability, but rarely talk about class or religion - do you think these are major issues? Particularly class as it's such a big issue politically?


Absolutely! And I see people taking about classism and religion on my dash quite a bit!

Classism and racism a lot of times get used together. Just some random topics off the top of my head…

I just read something about shaming people for going to Walmart is classist because while IDEALLY you’d want no one to shop there, for a lot of people in poverty that’s literally their only option so don’t blame them for that.

Also I read about the “grammar nazis” that shame the use of aave (African American Vernacular English) is incredibly racist and sometimes classist. There is no pure and better form of the language, it’s constantly changing and adapting and words are being shortened. People who spoke old English would think we sound like barbarians, but that doesn’t mean our modern language is WRONG. I say southern things like “ain’t” and “y’all” and those are looked down on in a classist way as an “uneducated” way of speech, but they’re not. It’s the shortening of “am not” and “you all.”
“Grammar nazism” is just a way of being a classist asshole and sometimes a thinly veiled racist.

And cultural appropriation is a HUUUUUUUGE topic right now. People borrowing things from other cultures and using them to look “cool” while stripping it from it’s cultural significance. Feeling free to wear a bindi from your place of privilege while an actual Indian girl could get harassed on the street for wearing one is total horse shit.
Coachella is making my head hurt so bad.

And the while Islamaphobia in feminism thing is rampant. White girls trying to “free” Muslims of their hijab and burqa and TELLING them they are oppressed is NOT OKAY. No one is asking to be “saved” from their hijab and you are ignorant and gross if you think you need to do that. They make a conscious choice to wear that, that is their personal belief. I’ve read that some of the reasoning behind wearing them for some girls is to save their body for their husband/life partner. And honestly shaming that still constitutes as sex shaming. It’s wrong to shame a girl for using her body how she pleases, whether it be to sleep with a hundred men or to show her body ONLY to her husband. Still her choice.

And I don’t even want to get into how a lot of Christian things are inherently sexist. The idea of “purity” among girls and how it is praised for Christian girls is toxic and awful. It encourages the virgin/whore dichotomy which leaves women ALWAYS to blame for what they do, which opens the door for victim blaming. “Purity” shames us for owning our body and makes sex taboo for us.
IT IS TOTALLY OKAY IF YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL MARRIAGE that is your body and your decision. But shaming someone who DOESNT wait as a “whore” makes you an ass.

Also we all know people use Christianity as a vehicle to justify their homophobia, transphobia and deny women their right to own their own bodies.

(To be fair that’s not the only homophobic religion, just a hugely prevalent one in America.)

Enough topics? Lol

Thanks for the in-depth response! I think the class/religion issues are quite different in the UK (where I am) because class is often seen as a badge of pride, particularly those like me, my family were working class (worked down mines, factories etc.) but the last few generations have come out of that into middle class and I think there’s a lot of guilt that leaves people hanging onto their working class roots, denying their middle class privilege in a way that I think undermines those who actually struggle every day to get by.

Regarding religion, while we do have Catholics, evangelicals, the majority of the country is atheist and the majority of Christians belong to moderate churches who are generally quite liberal and accepting - something the church has had to do to evolve and survive.  There are definitely issues with Islamophobia, transphobia, sexism, you name it but it rarely stems from religion, which makes it harder to know what the root cause is and who to be angry at.

I get nervous personally about there being a kind of scale of privilege - ie. I am white, middle class, able-bodied, cis, but female - so accept my privilege and recognise my oppression.  Whenever I bring up issues of privilege with (let’s be honest here) white, cis, able-bodied men, they have a tendency to look for places where they could be oppressed - generally they go to class, indicating though not fully saying aloud, that growing up poor means they suffered more oppression than growing up as a female.  And it’s a competitive argument I don’t want to get into because I feel it depoliticises feminism and ultimately, who wants to go running around shouting “I’m more oppressed than you, I win!” because that doesn’t really help anyone..?

As you can imagine it can be deeply frustrating!



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What I love about episode seven and Raúl’s performance is that he’s comic relief. And Raúl is aware that coming into this world, [his] purpose is comic relief. How he navigated that and the scene where he’s saying, “I’ve got a partially eaten man in my guest room and corpses on the property, and you threw up an ear,” is sort of embracing the absurdity of the situation and winking at the audience and saying, “We know. It’s over the top. We’re having fun. Come with us.” (x)

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